Definitely Talented, Definitely Gary
By Kris Graft
If there’s a band in this town that personifies
the common man, it may very well be Definitely
Gary. That’s not to say that these guys aren’t
unique, it’s just that they’re down-to-Earth and
easy to talk to. With one listen to their
admittedly weird mix of grooving guitar rock,
groovier funk and punchy jazz, you’ll be
scratching your head and bobbing it
simultaneously. Humble, hilarious and always
self-deprecating, Definitely Gary’s secret to
happiness is the ability to laugh at
themselves.
Although they wear their sense of humor on their
collective sleeve, make no mistake; these guys
are extremely talented musicians.
Guitarist/vocalist Zach Smith joined grade school
buddies Casey Stansifer (vocals, bass) and Jon
Ross (drums) in 2000 to form Definitely Gary.
Stansifer’s manic basslines, Ross’ complex
rhythms and Smith’s dirty guitar and
schizophrenic vocals meld together, resulting in
some kind of Frankenstein music monster made up
from pieces of Primus, Frank Zappa and old Jane’s
Addiction.
“Casey and I have been friends since third
grade,” said Ross. “We had a band, and we started
writing songs with some other guy, then he left.
He flaked out on us and went to Boston, so we
picked up Zach.”
“We defaulted to Zach,” said Casey, initiating
the long line of friendly insults that would be
exchanged during the course of the interview.
“Zach took some work,” Ross added.
Whatever “work” was done on Smith, it seems to
be paying off, in a musical sense, anyway.
“We know we’re not going to make money playing
original songs in this town, so when we do
practice, if we choose to write a song, it’s
pretty quick,” said Smith. “Or, sometimes it’s
not pretty quick, sometimes it takes a while, but
those usually end up on the cutting room floor.
We just get together, do something, and have fun
with it.”
Ross is sure to point out that they are by no means a parody act.
“We’re not writing Weird Al songs,” he said.
“You know when you hear something that’s weird,
but it’s kind of cool at the same time? [That’s
what we shoot for.]”
Definitely Gary’s lyrical inspiration ranges
from rodeo clowns to deja vu to puppets from
defunct local kids’ shows.
“We have a song about Froggy’s Pad,” said Smith,
referring to the rubber frog hand-puppet made
famous among local 20-somethings through the
now-canceled WFFT kids’ show, “Happy’s Place.”
“I worked with [the voice of] Froggy, yeah. We
were going to get him out for a show sometime,
but it just didn’t work out.”
“We were beaten.”
After Definitely Gary’s second-round
elimination during the recent whatzup
Battle of the Bands, a small controversy was
ignited, primarily by some of Definitely Gary’s
loyal fans.
“We were beaten,” insisted Ross, answering the
question of whether or not they felt robbed after
they were eliminated earlier than expected.
Stansifer made their views on the matter even
more profound, adding “We were defeated by the
bands who defeated us.”
Ross continued, “We got mad about getting beat,
but we’re not mad at any of the bands. You know,
there was a lot of stuff being said. There were a
lot of people [saying things], and we’re not
affiliated with any of them.”
Once again, Stansifer chimed in, “We’re the last
band that anyone’s going to piss off. We love
everyone. We’re like The Beatles.”
While they are perhaps more like The Beatles in
the sense that they have love, love, love, as
opposed to being “bigger than Jesus,” there’s no
doubt that they can put on show befitting of the
name “The Fab Three.” Although they were
eliminated from the battle of the bands early, it
wasn’t because of a lacking performance. In fact,
they earned a judges’ score of 89 out of 100, the
highest score to that point in the competition.
With a high judges’ score combined with the interpretive
dancing of a surprisingly legit-looking Star Wars
Stormtrooper and Tusken Raider, you’d think that
they were a shoe-in. However, the audience vote
swayed out of their favor.
“We did rock everyone’s ... asses off more than
we’ve rocked in quite a long time,” Ross wrote on
the FortWayneMusic.com message boards shortly
after their loss. “It was quite possibly one of
the best shows we’ve ever put on, and I did have
an absolute blast. If you weren’t there, I do
feel sorry for you and your non-rocked off
face.”
Although the band took the loss in stride, there
was still the slightest hint of regret from
Smith, even nearly four months after their
elimination.
“I blame Cookiepuss for not playing that night,”
he said half-jokingly. “If there was a four band
spread, we might have had a better chance ... but
they broke up. I’m just saying the ratio would’ve
been better.”
“[If they would’ve played], then we would’ve
lost to them!” Ross shot back, laughing.
Music or kettle corn
It’s obvious that the men of Definitely Gary
play because they simply love music. At their
recent show for the Midwest Original Music
Showcase at Columbia Street West, there were only
about 15 people present. Regardless, those 15
people were there to see Gary, and the band
played for them. If you were to judge only by
their stage presence, with no indication as to
how many people were actually watching them,
you’d think they were playing to a packed house.
With on-stage banter that was actually
entertaining, impromptu “clapping contests” and,
of course, energetic music, it’s hard not to have
a good time at a Definitely Gary show.
“We’ve never worked so hard for such little
money,” Stansifer said. “But, it’s either this or
... you know the guys who make the kettle corn at
Johnny Appleseed? It’d be one of the two. Yeah,
otherwise, I’d be the guy mixing the kettle corn.
You have to wear a hat and pants all the time. I
want to wear shorts.”
“He makes kettle corn, I make chain mail,” added
Ross. He continued in a more serious tone, “It’s
fun, though. We never talk about quitting.”
Ross in particular is keeping busy with music,
as he is currently the hired drumming hand of
four different bands, all of which happen to be
some of the most renowned in the area.
“[Definitely Gary are] friends with three or
four other bands in town because we all share the
same drummer,” Smith laughed. “It’s true: Us, the
Brown Bottle Band, [The Mike] Conley Band and
[The Legendary] Trainhoppers. We’re just friends
with Sturm because we’re all dorks, music
dorks.”
It’s also worth mentioning that Ross just
returned from San Francisco, after a recording
session with the Trainhoppers and the legendary
producer, Scott Mathews.
On the music scene
Although Definitely Gary has been known to
play popular Indianapolis venues such as Birdy’s
and The Rock Lobster, they are drawn to the
close-knit Fort Wayne music scene.
“I really like the Fort Wayne music scene,”
Stansifer said, almost as if he felt like he
would have to defend himself after admitting such
a thing. “I mean, everyone is interconnected, and
they play shows with whomever, you know what I
mean?”
Ross brought up an example.
“Mid City’s turned into the meeting ground
nowadays for musicians. On Sunday nights, the Taj
Maholics are there, and there are always a ton of
people there.”
Stansifer continued, “Yeah, you’ll see the Taj
Maholics, then Sturm will get up, and then the
Brown Bottle Band will get up, and then somebody
else will get up. It’s a very friendly
environment.”
Although they admire Fort Wayne’s music scene,
they recall that the best Definitely Gary moment
happened outside of town, albeit with a now
defunct Fort Wayne band.
“[That show] in Decatur, the one with Strut
Train ...” Ross began to recount, reaching back
into his memory.
“Oh, that was monumental,” Stansifer said, finishing Ross’ thought as if they
were an old married couple. “In the summer of
2001, we played a show with Strut Train in
Decatur. It was the most kick-ass show ever.”
Ross continued, “It was some shitty old bar that
they had just gutted, and I knew the guy who
owned it... There were like 200 kids in this
shitty old bar.”
“They [Strut Train] got there. It was a [crappy]
bar, and they were feeling a little uneasy about
the whole thing, but it rocked. That place
rocked.”
That seems to be the primary mission of
Definitely Gary: to rock. However, Smith added
another goal: “to get people to listen.” One way
they plan on meeting both of those goals is
through the release of their upcoming album,
The New Deal, which is set to be released
this December.
Outside of “rocking” and getting people to
listen, what’s the point of Definitely Gary?
“That’s a question we often ask ourselves,” said Stansifer.
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